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In the Interest of fairness we are willing to make space available for opposing opinions.   Below are some comments and some of the arguments for outlawing abortion which we received via E-mail.   All comments are printed in their entirety and  exactly as received.   Send us your comments.

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A message from Joseph A___  Jr.       29 Aug 03

whoa, dude.  and i thought the right wingers had some far out conspiracy theories.  can i have some of your drugs, man

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A message from L. M

I find some of your language offensive.   You call the pro-life leaders hypocrites, but you do the same thing.   Isn't that like "the pot calling the kettle black."   I don't like your confrontational approach, either.**  --  L. M.

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**  Regarding the Pro-Truth Team being accused of hypocrisy, we refer the viewers to the section titled: "The Pro-Truth Team and Hypocrisy"

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A message from Kevin:

I'm an educated man and your some hick from community college whom thinks he has all the answeres to a unrelated problem. Desease and famine go hand in hand. WHy not research the counties were these things occur and find out WHY the people there starve to death. IT has absolutely nothing to do with "ABORTION" or "Overpopulation" which is a pointless argument from the get go. Over population is an issue in Cities and it's not even an issue really. Like Japan most of the country is Plains, yet for some reason everyone is clustered in Tokyo.

Like the US 70% of the land is rural yet everyone seems to be clustered up in a major city somewhere. "OVerpopulation"? my ass. Theres a enough Murders,deases,and unrelated deaths in this world to keep the balance for a long time.

"Abortion" is just a market program as an answer for immature "WHITE" women whom are not responsible enough to raise a child because thier middle class parents will shame them. So they rather erase the mistake accept thier erasing a life. It's Murder of another humanbeing peroid.

Not a soulution to a problem that you think exist but in reality doesn't. The only reason people are clustered in cities is becuase and only because "THat is where the most jobs are"

If you lived anywhere besideds your inbread town you'd know that a majority of people who work in the city do not live there. And incase you missed it before I will say it again, "listening to you is like listening to shit hit the toilet!" now I"m through with your bullshit ass way of thinking. Go pick up a book sometime you fascist piece of babykilling Nazi KLU KLUX Klan shit.

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Now that Kevin has demonstrated how educated he is, here's a second message for Kevin:

Other than coloring the initial statements blue, the text below is passed on to you exactly it was received.   Judging from the distinct difference in the writing style between the message above and the statements below, we are guessing that the statements below were simply copied from another web site.   Regardless of their source, we hope you find them helpful.

 

Shortly after receiving Kevin's second e-mail, 
we found that the list of twenty one pro-life arguments included below had been copied from

http://www.abortiontv.com/AnswersToProChoice.htm 

They are included below exactly as we found them
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Here is are answers and infalliable counters to many anti-life beliefs and fallacies.

 

1.  The Fetus is part of the pregnant womanís body, like her tonsils or appendix.*

A body part is defined by the common genetic code it shares with the rest of itís body; the unbornís genetic code differs entirely from the motherís. Being "inside something" is not the same as being part of something. A car is not part of a garage because it is parked there. Human beings should not be discriminated against because of their "place of residence."

 

*The unborn is an embryo or a fetus ≠ just a simple blob of tissue -- not a baby. Abortion is simply terminating a pregnancy, not killing a child.*

Like toddler and adolescent, the terms embryo and fetus do not refer to non-humans, but humans in a particular stage of development. Fetus is a Latin word meaning "young one" or "little child." Is stage of development related to a personís worth? Is a two-year old worth less than a 6-year-old, etc?

>From the moment of conception the unborn is not simple, but very complex. The newly fertilized egg contains a staggering genetic information, sufficient to control the individualís growth and development for an entire lifetime.

Prior to the earliest first-trimester abortions, the unborn already has every body part she will ever have. At 18 days, after conception, the heart is forming and the eyes start to develop. By 30 days, she has multiplied in size ten thousand times. She has a brain and blood flows through her veins. By 42 days, the skeleton is formed and the brain is controlling the movement of the muscles and organs. After the first trimester, nothing new develops or begins functioning. The child only grows and matures.

 

*It is uncertain when human life begins, therefore itís a religious question, not a scientific one.*

Even though this argument is hardly used by the majority of pro-choice anymore, there are still a few who think it is a relevant argument. Bottom line is the question can be answered one of three ways. One could answer it in a religious theory; however, not everyone is of the same religion and some just plain don't believe in religion. So answering the question of when does human life begin in a religious theory makes it open to much debate. Another way the question could be answered is in a philosophic theory. Again not everyone's philosophy on a subject is the same and again the theory is left open to much debate. There is finally another theory which can answer the question of when does life begin. It is the biological theory. Biological human life is defined by studying the scientific facts of human development. This field of study has no disagreements and no controversy. Bottom line is that there is truly only one set of facts. The more knowledge that has been learned about human development, the more s

The biological fact is not a spiritual belief, nor is it a philosophical theory. The biological fact is not debatable, not questionable. It is a universally accepted scientific fact. See also "When Do Human Beings Begin."

 

*The unborn isnít a person with a meaningful life. Itís only inches in size, canít think, and is less advanced than an animal.*

A living beingís designation to a species is determined not by the stage of development, but by the sum total of its biological characteristics ≠ which are genetically determined. If we say that a fetus is not human, then we must state that it is a member of another species ≠ an impossibility. What makes a human "human" is that he/she came from humans. A dog is a dog because he came from dogs ≠ both the mother and father were dogs.

A living beingís designation to a species is determined not by the stage of development, but by the sum total of its biological characteristics ≠ which are genetically determined. If we say that a fetus is not human, then we must state that it is a member of another species ≠ an impossibility. What makes a human "human" is that he/she came from humans. A dog is a dog because he came from dogs ≠ both the mother and father were dogs.

Does size determine personhood? Is an NBA basketball player more of a person than someone half his size? If you lose ľ of your bodyweight through a diet, do you lose ľ of your personhood? If personhood is determined by oneís current capacities, then someone who is unconscious or sick could be killed immediately because he/she is not demonstrating superior intellect or skills. Age, size, IQ or stage development are simply differences in degree, not kind.

 

*The fetus may be alive, but so are eggs and sperm. The fetus is a potential human being, not an actual one. Itís like the blueprint, not a house, and acorn and not an oak tree.*

Something non-human does not become human by getting older and bigger -- whatever is human must be human from the beginning.

When the egg and sperm are joined, a new, dynamic, and genetically distinct human life begins. This life is neither sperm nor egg, nor a simple combination of both. It is independent, with a life of its own, on a rapid pace of self-directed development.

 

*A fetus isnít a "person" until viability.*

Viability (the point when an unborn baby could survive outside of the womb) is an arbitrary concept. Why isnít personhood associated with heartbeat (begins just 21 days after conception), or brainwaves (43 days after conception), or something else? The actual point of viability constantly changes because it depends on technology, not on the unborn baby.

Based on the same viability logic, many "born" people are not viable because they cannot survive on their own without the aid of others. Should we abort them too?

 

*No one should be expected to donate her body as a life-support system for someone else.*

The right to life doesnít increase with age and size; otherwise toddlers and adolescents would have less of a right to live than adults.

What is really at stake is the motherís lifestyle, as opposed to the babyís life. No one has an absolute unconditional right to a lifestyle. It is always governed by its effects on others. There are 1,000ís of restrictions on us including no-smoking provisions, noise and zoning ordinances, etc. Finally, is it reasonable for society to expect an adult to live with a temporary inconvenience if the only alternative is killing a child?

 

*Every person has the right to choose. It would be unfair to restrict a womanís choice by prohibiting abortion.*

All civilize societies restrict individual freedoms when that "choice" would harm an innocent person. Do men have the freedom of choice to rape a woman if that is his choice? After all, itís his body, why do we have a right to tell him what to do with it? Why do we have a right to impose our morals on him? By emphasizing a rapistís right to choose, we clearly are completely ignoring the rights of the woman.

We have laws that restrict false advertising, and others that protect us from tainted foods or bad products. We have laws against discrimination and violence. When otherís rights are at stake ≠ particularly when their lives are at stake ≠ society is expected to, and must restrict the individualís freedoms of choice. The fact is that people who are pro-choice about abortion, are often not prochoice about other issues with less at stake.

Throughout history, nearly all violations of human rights have been defended on the grounds of the right to choose, e.g. "you donít have to own slaves if you donít want to, but donít tell us we canít choose to. Itís our right." The civil rights movement fought to take away this "slavery choice," while the womanís movement fought to take away an employerís free choice to discriminate against women. The pro-choice position always overlooks the victimís right to choose. Women donít choose rape. African Americans didnít choose slavery. The Jews didnít choose to be killed in ovensÖ.and babies donít choose abortion.

 

*Every woman should have control over her own body. Reproductive freedom is a basic right.*

Abortion insures that 750,000 females each year do not have control over their bodies. Why? Because theyíre killed. About Ĺ of the total babies aborted each year in the United States are female ≠ killed before they are even born, not even able to enjoy the basic right to life.

We donít have absolute control over our bodies. A man is not permitted to expose himself in public. In most areas of the country, women are not allowed to sell their bodies through prostitution. Weíre also not permitted to take illegal drugs.

Too often, the "right to control my life," becomes a right to hurt an oppress others. Whites used blacks to enhance their own quality of life, but did so at the expense of blacks. Men have often used women to live their lives as they wanted, but at the expense of women.

 

*Abortion rights are fundamental for the advancement of women.*

The founding feminists were prolife, not prochoice. Susan B. Anthony, referred to abortion as "child murder" and viewed it as a means of exploiting both women and children.

Another leading (founding) feminist, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, said "When we consider that women are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should treat our children as property to be disposed of as we wish."

What happened? Abortion rights activists tied abortion to "womenís rights" in the 1960ís as a profit motive. To find out more, see "Feminism and Abortion." Further many of todayís active feminists still oppose abortion. Feminists for Life was started in the early 1970ís to counter the misdirected mainstream feminist movement's change to pro-abortion.

 

*"Iím personally against abortion, but I wouldnít take that right away from someone else."*

To be prochoice about abortion is to be pro-abortion. Suppose drug dealing were legalized and you heard this argument:

"Iím personally not in favor of someone dealing drugs at schools, but thatís a matter to decide between the drug dealer and his attorney. We donít want to go back to the days when drug dealing was illegal, and people died in back alleys from bad cocaine. I personally wouldnít buy drugs, so Iím not pro-drugs. Iím just pro-choice about drug dealing."

Basically, being personally against abortion but favoring anotherís right to abortion is self-contradictory and morally baffling. Itís exactly like saying, "Weíre personally against child abuse, but we defend our neighborís right to abuse his child if that is his choice."

Someone who is prochoice about rape might argue that itís not the same as being pro-rape. Whatís the difference, since being prochoice about rape allows and promotes the legitimacy of rape? Those who were prochoice about slavery believed their moral position was sound since they personally didnít own slaves. Similarly, most people in Germany did not favor the killing of Jews, but did nothing to stop the killing.

Some people have an illusion that being personally opposed to abortion while believing others should be free to choose it is some kind of compromise between pro-abortion and prolife positions. It isnít. Pro-choice people vote the same as pro-abortion people. Both oppose legal protection for the unborn, and both are willing for children to die ≠ even if they do not directly participate in the killings.

 

*Abortion is legal. Things that are "legal" are OK, arenít they?*

The government has a reputation as a protector, although closer examination reveals that this is an inconsistent position. Anything "legal" is actually a defacto endorsement from our government. Abortion is legal, so many women go blindly through the process believing that "if the government says its OK, then it must be fine." Countless women who have abortions are shocked at the realities of the experience -- both physically and mentally -- wondering, "why wasn't I warned?"

If abortions were illegal, there would probably be around 100,000 a year, as opposed to 1.5 million today -- so it's easy to conclude that this would save lives. Hearts would not be changed however ≠ this is only accomplished through a consistent education program.

Finally, what is legal is not always right. Law doesnít reflect morality ≠ rather the law should reflect a morality that is independent of the law. Case in point: was abortion immoral on January 21, 1973 and moral on January 23, 1973? In the 1940ís a German doctor could kill Jews legally, while in America he would have been prosecuted for murder. In the 1970ís and American doctor could kill unborn babies legally, while in Germany he would have been prosecuted for murder. Laws change. Truth and justice donít.

 

*Itís unfair to bring children into a world when theyíre not wanted.*

Thereís a major difference between and unwanted pregnancy and an unwanted child. Every child is wanted by someone. There are currently 200,000 couples in the US desperately seeking to adopt, yet less than 25,000 babies available each year. Demand is so great, that couples are forced to adopt in China and Russia, often spending more than $20,000 to do so.

Not just "normal" babies are wanted ≠ many people request babies with Downís Syndrome and there have been lists of over a hundred couples waiting to adopt babies with spina bifida.

Slave owners argued that slavery was in the best interest of blacks, since they couldnít make it on their own. Exploiting people and stripping them of their rights is always easier when we tell ourselves weíre doing it for their good rather than our own.

 

*Having more unwanted children results in greater child abuse.*

In the first 10 years after abortion was legalize, child abuse increased by over 500%. Is it any wonder? Isnít it easy to conclude that "if itís OK to abuse our unwanted children by killing them, then why not our "born" children?" Studies also have shown that child abuse is more frequent among mothers who have previously had an abortion.

Further, most abused children were wanted by their parents. A study conducted by professor Edward Lenoski of the University of California concluded that 91% of abused children were from planned pregnancies. In society, 64% of pregnancies are planned ≠ concluding that among abused children, a significantly higher percentage were wanted children compared to the percentage of wanted children in society at large.

 

*Abortion helps solve the problem of overpopulation.*

The current birth rate in America is less than what is needed to maintain our population level. In 1957, the average American woman in her reproductive years bore 3.7 children. Taking into account all causes of death and the increases in average life span, zero population growth requires that the average woman bears 2.1 children. Since 1972, the average in America has been 1.8 children ≠ a figure that is below zero population growth. In fact, any increases since 1972 have been due to immigration.

What about elsewhere? There are now 6 billion people on Earth. The planet's population will most likely continue to climb until 2050, when it will peak at 9 billion. Other predictions have the world's population peaking at 7.5 billion in 2040. In either case, it will then go into a sharp decline. With fertility rates low and anti-foreigner sentiment rising in Europe, the United Nations recently released a study that suggests Europe will need mass migration from the Third World to populate it. The report, written by the United Nations Population Division, states that South Korea, Japan, Europe and Russia are facing population crunches. If Japan continues its current abortion policies and fails to raise its average birth rate of 1.4 children per married couple, will have ewer than 500 people by the year 3000 (see "The Overpopulation Lie"). By 2050, the population of Russia will reduce to 150 million. In the 1970s, Russia's population rivaled America's, at more than 225 million people.

Finally, the entire population of the world could be placed in one gigantic city within the borders of the state of Texas (with a population density less than many cities around the world).

 

*If abortion were made illegal, there would still be many abortions.*

There are laws against rape, burglary, armed robbery and illegal drug dealing, yet every one of these crimes continues to happen in our society. Does the fact that these crimes still happen inspire us to make them legal? Clearly not, as laws should exist to discourage bad things from happening. Laws concerning abortion have significantly influenced whether women choose to have abortions. In one survey, 72 percent said they would definitely not have sought an abortion if having one were illegal.

There are laws against rape, burglary, armed robbery and illegal drug dealing, yet every one of these crimes continues to happen in our society. Does the fact that these crimes still happen inspire us to make them legal? Clearly not, as laws should exist to discourage bad things from happening. Laws concerning abortion have significantly influenced whether women choose to have abortions. In one survey, 72 percent said they would definitely not have sought an abortion if having one were illegal.

 

*If abortion is made illegal, thousands of women will die from back alley and clothes hanger abortions.*

This is a favorite myth put forth by pro-abortionists. Prior to legalization, 90 percent of abortions were done by physicians in their offices, not in back alleys. Further, women still suffer and die from "legal" abortions in America (see "Abortions Gone Wrong").

 

*Abortion is a safe medical procedure, safer than full-term pregnancy and childbirth.*

Abortion is not safer than full term pregnancy and childbirth. Less than one in 10,000 pregnancies results in the motherís death. Government statistics indicate the chances of death by abortion are even less ≠ however, deaths from childbirth are accurately reported, while many deaths by legal abortion are not ≠ completely skewing the statistics. Abortion actually increases the chance of maternal death in later pregnancies. Women face injuries to the uterus, cervix, urinary tract, infection, hemorrhage, heart failure, embolism, sterilizations, ruptured intestines & bowels, coma, and even death. In addition, there are countless cases of abortionists sexually abusing their clients while under anesthesia. In fact, you're four times more likely to die in the year following your abortion (see report). Further, woman who have abortions suffer mental health declines, while those who deliver their child actually have improved mental health (see report).

 

*What about a woman whose life is threatened by pregnancy or childbirth?*

American Life League's (www.all.org) medical advisors say the answer is a simple, unequivocal "no"ó and any claim to the contrary is bogus. And many other doctors across the country agree. American Life League circulated a statement (3/00) concerning this position to a select number of doctors around the country. More than 100 physicians have signed the statement ó including former abortionists Bernard Nathanson and Beverly McMillan. The statement reads, "I agree that there is never a situation in the law or in the ethical practice of medicine where a preborn [unborn] child's life need be intentionally destroyed by procured abortion for the purpose of saving the life of the mother. A physician must do everything possible to save the lives of both of his patients, mother and child. He must never intend the death of either." See "Life of Mother Exception?"

While he was the United States Surgeon General, Dr. C. Everett Koop stated publicly that in his thirty-eight years as a pediatric surgeon, he was never aware of a single situation in which a preborn childís life had to be taken in order to save the life of the mother. He said that the use of this argument to justify abortion in general was a "smoke screen."

 

*What about a woman who is pregnant due to rape or incest?*

Less than 1% of all abortions are due to rape or incest. Furthermore, since conception doesnít occur immediately after intercourse, pregnancy can be prevented in nearly all rape cases by medical treatments including the morning after pill (MAP).

Nearly all the women interviewed in a recent survey said they regretted aborting the babies conceived via rape or incest. Of those giving an opinion, more than 90 percent said they would discourage other victims of sexual violence from having an abortion (see report)

Finally, if you found out today that your biological father had raped your mother, would you feel you no longer had a right to live?

 

*Abortion Reduces Crime*

Roe v. Wade did not reduce the rate of illegitimacy, which is widely believed to contribute to crime. Indeed, illegitimacy shot upwards in a straight line from 5% in 1962 to 33% of babies born today. The legalization of abortion had no visible affect whatsoever on this disastrous trend. Only in the more conservative cultural climate of the late Nineties did the illegitimacy rate start to plateau - and at the same time the number of abortions dipped as well.

A study by Levitt and Donohue point out that the crime rate started to fall about 18-20 years after Roe v. Wade in 1973. However, this reasoning also implies that these same individuals born soon after 1973 should have grown up to be especially law-abiding teens in the early Nineties. Did they?

No. Instead, this generation born after Roe v. Wade went on the worst youth murder spree in American history. According to FBI statistics, the murder rate in 1993 for 14-17 years olds (who were born in the high abortion years of 1975-1979) was a horrifying 3.6 times higher than that of the kids who were 14-17 years old in 1984 (who were born in the pre-legalization years of 1966-1970).

What about black male youths alone? Levitt and Donohue's theory suggests that their behavior should have "benefited" more that whites' behavior from abortion. Instead, their murder rate grew an apocalyptic 5.1 times from 1984 to 1993. See "Does Abortion Really Reduce Crime?"

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